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  • #23742

    beachcomber
    Participant

    Good news – the company that manufactures the APE studs and nuts will supply them to me in sets suitable for the KZ750 Twin !

    I will order a 2 x sets for myself – if anyone else is interested in principle – let me know.

    As ever price will depend on the order size and the cost of import – but will certainly be cheaper than buying a 4 cylinder set and throwing 4 studs and 4 nuts away !

    #23746

    beachcomber
    Participant

    The costings are nearly all in now for the APE studs. I’m just trying to find a way round the extortionate US postage charges !

    4 sets earmarked in principle now [ depending on price ] and I’m expecting more interest from our German cousins.

    HD clutch springs should be with me later today – I need to order 100 springs [ 20 bikes ] to make it viable – I need 3 sets and again there’s interest from the Germans.

    Looks like twin plug heads and Weber manifolds could also be a goer.

    #23753

    kaptainkwak
    Keymaster

    Sorry Beachcomber I’ve not been around much lately as busy celebrating my birthday and enjoying some time with my son who is visiting from Australia. Give me a couple of days and I will catch up with you again

    KK

    #23756

    beachcomber
    Participant

    Andy, no rush.

    I have orders for 5 sets of clutch springs from our German cousins – so they are getting spoken for.

    I will order 100 [ 20 sets ] on Monday morning. I will put them on E-Bay etc. as I need to get as many sets spoken for before I have to collect – and pay !

    Prices as follows for anyone interested

    Retail £24.00
    Club / casual trade £17.00
    Sets of 5 / per order £12.00

    The head studs are also a goer – 4 sets now spoken for in principle. I have to commit to 10 sets to get them to make up the kits. I’m trying to get an economical carriage service. I have one option for them to come back with a pal that’s going to the US. Problem is he might not be coming back until March. Nominal length of the long studs please ?

    To bring them over with normal post would almost double the cost price !

    #23819

    beachcomber
    Participant

    More good news – there might be a “plan B” for the Hi-Po studs / nuts for the UK / EU.

    The company that makes the high performance studs for the RAM C Type Jaguar replicas says he can make our studs to the same specs as the APE items.

    I have sent him the details to get a price based on 80 [ 10 x sets ]. This is the minimum quantity to get a good price.

    The VERY good news is that they are manufactured here in the UK …… no silly carriage costs, no VAT and no customs duty ! That will save approximately 40% on the costs. AND they will be available to call off with a 2 week lead time.

    #23832

    beachcomber
    Participant

    Good response from the RAM stud manufacturers.

    They will produce suitable studs in the correct lengths to the same spec material as APE with suitable flanged nuts [ NOT domed ].

    Initial discussion is good and the cost is likely to be almost 40% cheaper than the cost of importing the APE product [ $138 + shipping, duty and VAT.].

    Of course we then have NO shipping and duty to pay – only VAT.

    The only bad [ ? ] news is that I must order 20 sets.However when I see the bad condition of the standard OEM studs [ corrosion + stretching ] these would be an almost essential part of even a stock rebuild.

    Final prices when I return in 2 weeks from a chill trip to Alsace.!! 😉

    #23834

    beachcomber
    Participant

    Prices now in

    Kit comprises 4 x 190mm studs
    4 x 180mm studs
    8 x flanged nuts [ not domed ]

    All 10.9 grade material Gold passivated.

    Kit price £65.00 retail and in orders of 5 sets – £52 per set.

    Forget CORROSION
    Forget Stretching
    Will help to eliminate head gasket issues.

    I will be placing the first order with RAM when I return from my chill break to Alsace [ 15th October ]

    Strictly first come first served as I already have 8 sets sold [ 12 left ].

    #23838

    beachcomber
    Participant

    I forgot to mention that any club members will buy at the 5 + price … that is £52 for a personal set.

    If anyone is interested I will need firm orders by the end of this month – production will begin in September.

    #23839

    kaptainkwak
    Keymaster

    AN AMMENDMENT TO THIS POST CAN BE SEEN A FEW POSTS DOWN

    Production begins in September? WOW that is fast ha ha (I have confirmed he meant November)

    So as we may know the 4 centre studs are not enclosed and therefore prone to corrosion and build up of road muck which in turn makes the barrels very difficult to remove. – None corroding bolts  – Problem solved.

    Also it is a know fact that the most common failure of the head gasket is in the middle at the front. This could well be down to the front centre 2 studs stretching. Even Kawasaki saw an issue here as they designed in an extra bolt there. – None stretch bolts – Problem probably solved.

    Obviously a cannot confirm this yet but from a design point of view it sounds very positive. The cost of £52 is approximately double the cost of pattern studs posted, if you can find them. That to me is money well spent if achieves either of the potential claims mentioned above.

    I will have 2 sets of studs please.

    I would also like 2 sets of clutch springs as well.

    Have yourself a good trip mate.

    Cheers

    KK

    • This reply was modified 2 weeks, 3 days ago by  kaptainkwak.
    • This reply was modified 2 days, 14 hours ago by  kaptainkwak.
    #23925

    beachcomber
    Participant

    Thanx KK – back from my chill break now ….. wish I was back there !

    The manufacturers have confirmed that the specs are as the APE parts ….. only difference – about£180 !!!!! Most of that is in Freight, duty, VAT etc.

    The nuts are NOT domed as the APE versions, but if future orders come in I can contemplate ordering specific nuts. Grades are the same – just cosmetics. As the parts will be Gold passivated, further protection from any potential corrosion. BTW all you other guys – only 5 sets left now from the first batch.

    #24213

    beachcomber
    Participant

    To be clear – the kit is for EIGHT studs an EIGHT nuts all gold passivated.

    The manufacturer’s have now informed me that the price they quoted was EXCLUSIVE OF VAT.

    That means I have to pass that on …. 5 sets and or club price will be £62.40 and retail £78.00.

    However I think that compares favourably with the OEM price for standard studs and nuts.

    At this price it should be a no brainer to replace them when re-building an engine …. cheap insurance.

    The order has now been placed and production run is in 2 weeks.

    #24215

    kaptainkwak
    Keymaster

    Well after speaking to Beachcomber I need to make positive amendment’s to my previous post.

    The cost of standard Kawasaki studs is £9 each. That is £72 for 8.
    The cost of standard Kawasaki nuts is £6.50 each That is £52 for 8

    Total cost of standard Kawasaki parts (8 of each) is £124

    Beachcomber is offering a full set of studs and nuts (8 of each) for £62.40 inc VAT if you are a club member which is half the price of the standard Kawasaki ones and as they eliminate stretching and corrosion it’s an absolute no brainer!

    The price quoted is obviously plus P&P (as standard Kawasaki ones would be too) which is estimated at £6.

    20 sets have now been ordered this batch and they are selling fast with over half sold so far so get your set reserved.

    • This reply was modified 2 days, 14 hours ago by  kaptainkwak.
    #24218

    beachcomber
    Participant

    Thanx KK for clarifying. YES I could have done the greedy bastard job and charged £150 +, but this is an exercise to help my fellow 750 owners – as are the clutch springs.

    Going rapidly …. at this rate I might have to place another order !!

    Anyone know FOR DEFINITE the lengths of the Z1 studs ? It’s fairly obvious I have at least half the set required !

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