4th September 2018 at 7:55 pm #23742
Good news – the company that manufactures the APE studs and nuts will supply them to me in sets suitable for the KZ750 Twin !
I will order a 2 x sets for myself – if anyone else is interested in principle – let me know.
As ever price will depend on the order size and the cost of import – but will certainly be cheaper than buying a 4 cylinder set and throwing 4 studs and 4 nuts away !10th September 2018 at 10:02 am #23746
The costings are nearly all in now for the APE studs. I’m just trying to find a way round the extortionate US postage charges !
4 sets earmarked in principle now [ depending on price ] and I’m expecting more interest from our German cousins.
HD clutch springs should be with me later today – I need to order 100 springs [ 20 bikes ] to make it viable – I need 3 sets and again there’s interest from the Germans.
Looks like twin plug heads and Weber manifolds could also be a goer.13th September 2018 at 10:01 pm #23753
Sorry Beachcomber I’ve not been around much lately as busy celebrating my birthday and enjoying some time with my son who is visiting from Australia. Give me a couple of days and I will catch up with you again
KK15th September 2018 at 12:05 pm #23756
Andy, no rush.
I have orders for 5 sets of clutch springs from our German cousins – so they are getting spoken for.
I will order 100 [ 20 sets ] on Monday morning. I will put them on E-Bay etc. as I need to get as many sets spoken for before I have to collect – and pay !
Prices as follows for anyone interested
Club / casual trade £17.00
Sets of 5 / per order £12.00
The head studs are also a goer – 4 sets now spoken for in principle. I have to commit to 10 sets to get them to make up the kits. I’m trying to get an economical carriage service. I have one option for them to come back with a pal that’s going to the US. Problem is he might not be coming back until March. Nominal length of the long studs please ?
To bring them over with normal post would almost double the cost price !23rd September 2018 at 8:21 pm #23819
More good news – there might be a “plan B” for the Hi-Po studs / nuts for the UK / EU.
The company that makes the high performance studs for the RAM C Type Jaguar replicas says he can make our studs to the same specs as the APE items.
I have sent him the details to get a price based on 80 [ 10 x sets ]. This is the minimum quantity to get a good price.
The VERY good news is that they are manufactured here in the UK …… no silly carriage costs, no VAT and no customs duty ! That will save approximately 40% on the costs. AND they will be available to call off with a 2 week lead time.25th September 2018 at 5:51 pm #23832
Good response from the RAM stud manufacturers.
They will produce suitable studs in the correct lengths to the same spec material as APE with suitable flanged nuts [ NOT domed ].
Initial discussion is good and the cost is likely to be almost 40% cheaper than the cost of importing the APE product [ $138 + shipping, duty and VAT.].
Of course we then have NO shipping and duty to pay – only VAT.
The only bad [ ? ] news is that I must order 20 sets.However when I see the bad condition of the standard OEM studs [ corrosion + stretching ] these would be an almost essential part of even a stock rebuild.
Final prices when I return in 2 weeks from a chill trip to Alsace.!! 😉27th September 2018 at 10:16 pm #23834
Prices now in
Kit comprises 4 x 190mm studs
4 x 180mm studs
8 x flanged nuts [ not domed ]
All 10.9 grade material Gold passivated.
Kit price £65.00 retail and in orders of 5 sets – £52 per set.
Will help to eliminate head gasket issues.
I will be placing the first order with RAM when I return from my chill break to Alsace [ 15th October ]
Strictly first come first served as I already have 8 sets sold [ 12 left ].1st October 2018 at 10:57 am #23838
I forgot to mention that any club members will buy at the 5 + price … that is £52 for a personal set.
If anyone is interested I will need firm orders by the end of this month – production will begin in September.1st October 2018 at 6:21 pm #23839
AN AMMENDMENT TO THIS POST CAN BE SEEN A FEW POSTS DOWN
Production begins in September? WOW that is fast ha ha (I have confirmed he meant November)
So as we may know the 4 centre studs are not enclosed and therefore prone to corrosion and build up of road muck which in turn makes the barrels very difficult to remove. – None corroding bolts – Problem solved.
Also it is a know fact that the most common failure of the head gasket is in the middle at the front. This could well be down to the front centre 2 studs stretching. Even Kawasaki saw an issue here as they designed in an extra bolt there. – None stretch bolts – Problem probably solved.
Obviously a cannot confirm this yet but from a design point of view it sounds very positive. The cost of £52 is approximately double the cost of pattern studs posted, if you can find them. That to me is money well spent if achieves either of the potential claims mentioned above.
I will have 2 sets of studs please.
I would also like 2 sets of clutch springs as well.
Have yourself a good trip mate.
KK12th October 2018 at 3:53 pm #23925
Thanx KK – back from my chill break now ….. wish I was back there !
The manufacturers have confirmed that the specs are as the APE parts ….. only difference – about£180 !!!!! Most of that is in Freight, duty, VAT etc.
The nuts are NOT domed as the APE versions, but if future orders come in I can contemplate ordering specific nuts. Grades are the same – just cosmetics. As the parts will be Gold passivated, further protection from any potential corrosion. BTW all you other guys – only 5 sets left now from the first batch.15th October 2018 at 11:32 pm #24213
To be clear – the kit is for EIGHT studs an EIGHT nuts all gold passivated.
The manufacturer’s have now informed me that the price they quoted was EXCLUSIVE OF VAT.
That means I have to pass that on …. 5 sets and or club price will be £62.40 and retail £78.00.
However I think that compares favourably with the OEM price for standard studs and nuts.
At this price it should be a no brainer to replace them when re-building an engine …. cheap insurance.
The order has now been placed and production run is in 2 weeks.16th October 2018 at 6:21 pm #24215
Well after speaking to Beachcomber I need to make positive amendment’s to my previous post.
The cost of standard Kawasaki studs is £9 each. That is £72 for 8.
The cost of standard Kawasaki nuts is £6.50 each That is £52 for 8
Total cost of standard Kawasaki parts (8 of each) is £124
Beachcomber is offering a full set of studs and nuts (8 of each) for £62.40 inc VAT if you are a club member which is half the price of the standard Kawasaki ones and as they eliminate stretching and corrosion it’s an absolute no brainer!
The price quoted is obviously plus P&P (as standard Kawasaki ones would be too) which is estimated at £6.
20 sets have now been ordered this batch and they are selling fast with over half sold so far so get your set reserved.
17th October 2018 at 7:24 pm #24218
- This reply was modified 2 days, 14 hours ago by kaptainkwak.
Thanx KK for clarifying. YES I could have done the greedy bastard job and charged £150 +, but this is an exercise to help my fellow 750 owners – as are the clutch springs.
Going rapidly …. at this rate I might have to place another order !!
Anyone know FOR DEFINITE the lengths of the Z1 studs ? It’s fairly obvious I have at least half the set required !
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